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DON'T WE CHIROPRACTORS THINK IT IS TIME TO STOP WASTING TIME FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER AND TAKE A  MORE  POSITIVE ROUTE TO SHOWING JUST HOW GREAT  CHIROPRACTIC IS. I DON'T AGREE WITH MANY OF THE TACTICS OF THE STRAIGHT CHIRO'S BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MESSAGE AND TRUTH IS IN THERE. I ADJUST MY FAMILY, PETS, PARENTS AND ALL BECAUSE I KNOW THE VALUE OF AN UNSUBLUXATED SPINE AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU DO ALSO. CHIROPRACTIC AT ITS ROOT IS AN INCREDIBLE THING AND NOT TO BE DEVALUED THROUGH A NEGATIVE ENERGY FUNNEL SUCH AS THIS WEBSITE. FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON POSITIVE CHIROPRACTIC. THIS TYPE OF THING WILL JUST BRING YOU AND YOUR PRACTICE DOWN.


 


YOURS IN CHIROPRACTIC



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clint

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 arguing that we should try to get along with the likes of rondberg is like saying, 'let hitler have czechoslovakia.  we all need to get along better."  if one doesn't stand up to the rondbergs, then we have no justification for standing up to any quackery performed under the title of chiropractic.  either we take a stand against all that is false or none and thus let anyone with any goofy idea in their head do whatever they want and call it chiropractic.



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Timothy A. Mirtz DC MSE CHES

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DON'T WE CHIROPRACTORS THINK IT IS TIME TO STOP WASTING TIME FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER AND TAKE A  MORE  POSITIVE ROUTE TO SHOWING JUST HOW GREAT  CHIROPRACTIC IS.


Well, if we didn't have Rondberg and his band of tricksters, er, I mean, chiropracTICsters then the more positive aspects of this profession may come about.


I DON'T AGREE WITH MANY OF THE TACTICS OF THE STRAIGHT CHIRO'S BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MESSAGE AND TRUTH IS IN THERE.


What truth is that?


I ADJUST MY FAMILY, PETS, PARENTS AND ALL BECAUSE I KNOW THE VALUE OF AN UNSUBLUXATED SPINE AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU DO ALSO.


a. you adjust your pets? I have a goldfish, can you adjust it's spine? Fascinating that DC's never take a course in non-human biology during their education yet you claim to adjust your pets. Oh yeah, my son has a pet hamster, can you adjust him too?


b. what is the value of being unsubluxated? I have never seen a subluxation.


CHIROPRACTIC AT ITS ROOT IS AN INCREDIBLE THING AND NOT TO BE DEVALUED THROUGH A NEGATIVE ENERGY FUNNEL SUCH AS THIS WEBSITE.


Yeah man, we all need to gather for like a group hug so we can channel all that negative waves that are giving off. Man, I am getting some weird vibes here. Dude, this is too groovy to pass up man. Like a group hug where we can all gather and meditate where we can all smoke a bong of some natural stuff and enter into a higher plane of consciousness and funnel this funky negative stuff out of the world.


FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON POSITIVE CHIROPRACTIC. THIS TYPE OF THING WILL JUST BRING YOU AND YOUR PRACTICE DOWN.


How does it bring a practice down when clowns like yourself do nothing to help it and the profession?


 



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J. Michael Burke, D.C.

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Originally posted by: Timothy A. Mirtz DC MSE CHES

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b. what is the value of being unsubluxated? I have never seen a subluxation.
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What? You've never seen a subluxation? Then what sort of chiropractor are you? [just kidding] Subluxations are like the emperorís new clothes. As it says in the story, those who could not see the emperor's fine garments were either stupid or unfit for their jobs. If we keep proselytizing our subluxation philosophy we, just like the fabled emperor, will one day open our eyes to see our own nakedness.

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Randall Lord, D.C.

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Without the "subluxation" philosophy the chiropractor is just a marginaly competent PT. For this reason DC's hang onto the subluxation theory like it's their only life jacket (which it is) after their ship has sunk. Anyone publicly discussing the emperior's nakedness MUST be attacked and discredited (bring it on).


Did Terry Rhomberg help or hurt the profesional unity regarding the Trigon case? Did he talk about assisting the ACA? NO! If you don't toe his political line he considers you  part of the problem.



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MIKE

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Originally posted by: Timothy A. Mirtz DC MSE CHES

"DON'T WE CHIROPRACTORS THINK IT IS TIME TO STOP WASTING TIME FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER AND TAKE A  MORE  POSITIVE ROUTE TO SHOWING JUST HOW GREAT  CHIROPRACTIC IS. Well, if we didn't have Rondberg and his band of tricksters, er, I mean, chiropracTICsters then the more positive aspects of this profession may come about. I DON'T AGREE WITH MANY OF THE TACTICS OF THE STRAIGHT CHIRO'S BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MESSAGE AND TRUTH IS IN THERE. What truth is that? I ADJUST MY FAMILY, PETS, PARENTS AND ALL BECAUSE I KNOW THE VALUE OF AN UNSUBLUXATED SPINE AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU DO ALSO. a. you adjust your pets? I have a goldfish, can you adjust it's spine? Fascinating that DC's never take a course in non-human biology during their education yet you claim to adjust your pets. Oh yeah, my son has a pet hamster, can you adjust him too? b. what is the value of being unsubluxated? I have never seen a subluxation. CHIROPRACTIC AT ITS ROOT IS AN INCREDIBLE THING AND NOT TO BE DEVALUED THROUGH A NEGATIVE ENERGY FUNNEL SUCH AS THIS WEBSITE. Yeah man, we all need to gather for like a group hug so we can channel all that negative waves that are giving off. Man, I am getting some weird vibes here. Dude, this is too groovy to pass up man. Like a group hug where we can all gather and meditate where we can all smoke a bong of some natural stuff and enter into a higher plane of consciousness and funnel this funky negative stuff out of the world. FOCUS YOUR ENERGY ON POSITIVE CHIROPRACTIC. THIS TYPE OF THING WILL JUST BRING YOU AND YOUR PRACTICE DOWN. How does it bring a practice down when clowns like yourself do nothing to help it and the profession?  "



GO BACK TO PHYSICAL THERAPY SCHOOL AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SKILL TO ADJUST YOUR DOG I FEEL VERY SAD FOR THE POOR PUP. I FEEL VERY SAD FOR YOUR PATIENTS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A SUBLUXATION IS. DO YOU RUB AN ULTRASOUND HEAD OVER THE BOO-BOO AND TELL THEM TO TAKE AN ADVIL??? PATHETIC.



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Timothy A. Mirtz DC MSE CHES

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Mike says: GO BACK TO PHYSICAL THERAPY SCHOOL AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SKILL TO ADJUST YOUR DOG I FEEL VERY SAD FOR THE POOR PUP.


Because a DC questions the ability of DC's to perform manipulation on non-humans when DC's do not take one course in non-human anatomy, that DC is told to go to PT school?


Tell me, how many dogs did you adjust in your training in chiropractic school?


Mike says: I FEEL VERY SAD FOR YOUR PATIENTS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A SUBLUXATION IS.


What do my patients care if they have a subluxation or not or whether or not I care to know what one is?


Mike says: DO YOU RUB AN ULTRASOUND HEAD OVER THE BOO-BOO AND TELL THEM TO TAKE AN ADVIL??? PATHETIC.


Why would I want to rub ultrasound over a spinal boo boo? Also, why should anyone tell someone to take advil for something that has no consequence upon the health of someone?


What's reallly pathetic is the weak arguments that DC's such as Mike give.



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J. Michael Burke, D.C.

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More power to you, Dr. Mirtz! I wonder how subluxation based chiropractors "know what a subluxation is" when there are so many different and often contradictory methods used to find and treat them? Even when there is agreement on identifying these creatures, there is little if any inter-examiner reliability (e.g., motion palpation). Yet, chiropractors like "Mike" look down on those of us who ask for accountability and intellectual honesty. I have been called names like "medipractor," implying that treating spinal "boo-boos" with ultrasound and Advil (something I rarely do, actually) is inferior to correcting subluxations. As I've said, if you can't see the emperor's new clothes you are either stupid or unfit for your job.

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JCS

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"GO BACK TO PHYSICAL THERAPY SCHOOL AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SKILL TO ADJUST YOUR DOG I FEEL VERY SAD FOR THE POOR PUP. I FEEL VERY SAD FOR YOUR PATIENTS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A SUBLUXATION IS. DO YOU RUB AN ULTRASOUND HEAD OVER THE BOO-BOO AND TELL THEM TO TAKE AN ADVIL??? PATHETIC."


This tone is so typical of chirovangelists who've taken a religious attitude--more aptly--a Jehovah Witness attitude of "we're right, everyone else is wrong."Might I add that the BJ Palmer way is not the only branch in the chiropractic tree, just as the JW way is not the only religion. Sadly, if one questions BJ's chirobabble, these fundamentalists are quick to condemn as if his drivel is immutable.


I find his chiding, "DO YOU RUB AN ULTRASOUND HEAD OVER THE BOO-BOO," is meant to belittle Mirtzy's question, but in reality, this sounds alot like the case of Joanne Gallagher, Sherman grad, who killed her patient suffering from seizures. Gallagher waved her hands over the patient's head using the "Upledger Method to balance her menniges." I wonder if our chirovangelist PollyAnna is critical of her method or not?


Indeed, what must one do to draw the ire of these chirovangelists? Obviously killing patients is okay as long as they preach Innatism, but god forbide if they use an ultrasound. What's wrong with this picture?


Until we rid our profession of the hucksters, evil vendors, wild eyed philosophers, and practice gurus who brainwash young grads, we'll continue to see dissension among the ranks. It's time to expose and to fight these evil vendors and to reclaim our profession.


regards,


JCS


Lord of the Alliance


franchises still available.



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